https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/5e7c8b2b418a84a046e3ecbc聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉，我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！ - Powered by RSSHubRSSHubcontact@rsshub.app (RSSHub)牛油果烤面包falseenhttps://bts-image.xyzcdn.net/aHR0cHM6Ly9pLnR5cGxvZy5jb20vYXZvY2Fkb3RvYXN0Lzg0MTU5NDU3MDBfMTMwMDU0LmpwZz94LW9zcy1wcm9jZXNzPXN0eWxlL3Ns.jpg@smallhttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/5e7c8b2b418a84a046e3ecbcSat, 17 Oct 2026 00:38:18 GMT5<p><span>嘉宾：Shihang</span><br><span>主播：Cat、斯图亚特、Sean</span><br><span>剪辑&amp;时间线：季雨清</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>时间线</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a></span></span><span> 七周年，老朋友再聊苹果</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:05:18"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="318">00:05:18</a></span></span><span> 发布会印象与新 CEO</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:07:48"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="468">00:07:48</a></span></span><span> iPhone 算力与硬件升级</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:18:37"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1117">00:18:37</a></span></span><span> 相机与照片认证</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:23:05"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1385">00:23:05</a></span></span><span> iPhone 价格变化</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:24:15"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1455">00:24:15</a></span></span><span> AirPods</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:25:58"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1558">00:25:58</a></span></span><span> Apple Watch</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:32:08"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1928">00:32:08</a></span></span><span> 折叠屏：设计、体验与耐用性</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:48:26"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2906">00:48:26</a></span></span><span> 折叠屏的使用场景与购买意愿</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:57:39"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3459">00:57:39</a></span></span><span> 下一个七年，手机会变成什么样</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6aab5745817d148207608271https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6aab5745817d148207608271Thu, 17 Sep 2026 02:52:37 GMT1:01:19<p><span>在这一期节目中，我们和两位正在做编程智能体开发工作的朋友——</span><a href="https://pythonhunter.org/" data-url="https://pythonhunter.org"><span>捕蛇者说播客</span></a><span>的主播laike9m以及听友群的群友Rice一起聊了聊AI编程的历史以及技术核心。</span></p><span></span><p><span>从传统的“古法编程”、复杂的编译系统，到繁琐的测试与代码审核，我们首先回顾了为什么“软件开发从来都不只是敲代码”。随后，节目全面驶入 AI 时代：我们将梳理 AI 编程工具的演进史，重点剖析 Claude Code 与前沿的 Agentic Coding（智能体编程），并畅想 AI 主导的软件项目和全新工作流。</span></p><span></span><p><span>对于硬核技术爱好者，本期节目准备了丰富的内容：我们将深入拆解 MCP（模型上下文协议）、Agent Harness 的工作原理、复杂的上下文与记忆系统，以及多 Agent 协作的前沿实践。同时，我们也会冷静审视企业内部框架的 AI 适配难点、当前 AI 编程的真实能力边界与潜在的安全风险。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：laike9m、Rice</span><br><span>主播：斯图亚特、Cat</span><br><span>剪辑：季雨清</span><br><span>时间线：季雨清</span><br><span>AI片头： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a></span></span><span> 片头</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:43"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="43">00:00:43</a></span></span><span> 开场</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:02:29"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="149">00:02:29</a></span></span><span> 古法编程</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:07:25"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="445">00:07:25</a></span></span><span> 编译系统的复杂性</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:18:42"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1122">00:18:42</a></span></span><span> 测试、调试与代码审核</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:25:24"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1524">00:25:24</a></span></span><span> 软件开发不只是写代码</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:27:42"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1662">00:27:42</a></span></span><span> AI 编程工具的演进</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:41:23"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2483">00:41:23</a></span></span><span> Claude Code 和 Agentic Coding</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:49:11"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2951">00:49:11</a></span></span><span> AI 时代的编程工作流</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:55:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3356">00:55:56</a></span></span><span> AI 主导的软件项目</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:07:55"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4075">01:07:55</a></span></span><span> 内部框架与 AI 适配</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:15:28"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4528">01:15:28</a></span></span><span> AI 编程能力的边界</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:20:23"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4823">01:20:23</a></span></span><span> 新模型体验与安全风险</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:25:02"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5102">01:25:02</a></span></span><span> MCP 和 Skills</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:34:48"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5688">01:34:48</a></span></span><span> Agent Harness 的工作原理</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:49:38"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="6578">01:49:38</a></span></span><span> 上下文管理与记忆系统</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:59:43"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="7183">01:59:43</a></span></span><span> 多 Agent 协作</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=02:04:40"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="7480">02:04:40</a></span></span><span> AI 不只用于编程</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a606ba8cb700b7ba2568729https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a606ba8cb700b7ba2568729Wed, 22 Jul 2026 06:58:54 GMT2:10:59<p><span>不知道你有没有这种感觉：过去这两三年，硅谷每隔几个月就会冒出一个新的"AI 硬件"。每一个出来的时候，海报都很漂亮、Demo 都很炸裂，发布会上 CEO 都会说：「这是后智能手机时代的第一块拼图。」然后呢？然后大部分都安静地躺进了那个我们都熟悉的、湾区人专属的「一时冲动抽屉」里。</span></p><span></span><p><span>我一直在想一个问题：AI 这么强，模型这么猛，为什么这些 AI 硬件产品，普遍做得这么「不耐用」？不是性能上不耐用，是体感上不耐用。买回来的第三天，你就忘了它在哪。带着这个问题，我们这期请到的嘉宾 JY。JY 是 Stanford EE 博士，他现在做的这家公司叫 Vocci，做的是一枚戒指——一枚钛金属的、3 克重的、防水的 AI 戒指。</span></p><span></span><p><span>JY 会跟大家分享他关于产品哲学、商业逻辑和中国制造真正护城河的思考。我觉得这套思考对每一个在硬件赛道、消费电子、或者 AI 应用层的朋友，都会有启发。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：JY</span><br><span>主播：Cat</span><br><span>剪辑：季雨清、Cat</span><br><span>时间线：Cat</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>时间线</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a></span></span><span> 开场介绍</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:01:52"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="112">00:01:52</a></span></span><span> JY 自我介绍</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:02:32"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="152">00:02:32</a></span></span><span> Vocci 产品介绍</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:06:53"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="413">00:06:53</a></span></span><span> 为什么是「配件」而非「硬件」？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:11:33"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="693">00:11:33</a></span></span><span> 月费心理门槛</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:15:12"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="912">00:15:12</a></span></span><span> 融资故事</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:18:23"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1103">00:18:23</a></span></span><span> 「配件」格局太低？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:21:19"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1279">00:21:19</a></span></span><span> 点子来源</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:24:20"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1460">00:24:20</a></span></span><span> 硬件研发和量产经验</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:28:03"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1683">00:28:03</a></span></span><span> 工程卓越</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:37:28"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2248">00:37:28</a></span></span><span> 是否投放 Kickstarter 众筹？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:41:46"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2506">00:41:46</a></span></span><span> JY 总结</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于 Vocci</span></strong><br><span>大家可以通过 </span><a href="https://vocci.ai/" data-url="https://vocci.ai/"><span>vocci.ai</span></a><span> 访问 Vocci 的官方网站。JY 在此慷慨地为牛油果烤面包听众提供 $30 的折扣码：</span><code><span>AVOCADOVOCCI</span></code><span>。有效期至 2026 年 7 月 29 日。</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a4d23b8edd80dad59c89e7dhttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a4d23b8edd80dad59c89e7dTue, 07 Jul 2026 16:00:00 GMT0:43:35<p><span>和老朋友 Shihang 一起聊一聊今年的 WWDC2026！</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：Shihang 前 iOS 工程师，死忠果粉</span><br><span>主播：Sean、Cat 、Vindy</span><br><span>剪辑&amp;时间线：季雨清</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>时间线</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a></span></span><span> 开场介绍</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:42"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="42">00:00:42</a></span></span><span> WWDC 2026</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:02:36"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="156">00:02:36</a></span></span><span> macOS Golden Gate</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:03:43"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="223">00:03:43</a></span></span><span> Liquid Glass</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:08:22"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="502">00:08:22</a></span></span><span> Spotlight</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:09:59"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="599">00:09:59</a></span></span><span> 儿童账号与屏幕使用时间</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:20:06"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1206">00:20:06</a></span></span><span> Apple Intelligence</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:22:46"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1366">00:22:46</a></span></span><span> Shortcuts</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:25:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1556">00:25:56</a></span></span><span> Siri AI</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:39:40"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2380">00:39:40</a></span></span><span> App Intents</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:49:44"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2984">00:49:44</a></span></span><span> Safari</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:53:50"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3230">00:53:50</a></span></span><span> 照片</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:57:19"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3439">00:57:19</a></span></span><span> iCloud</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:59:15"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3555">00:59:15</a></span></span><span> 电话与信息</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:01:29"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3689">01:01:29</a></span></span><span> AI 使用场景</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:10:17"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4217">01:10:17</a></span></span><span> 总结</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Apple</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a2ef15ad1efce7e44b76c9chttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a2ef15ad1efce7e44b76c9cSun, 14 Jun 2026 18:14:41 GMT1:12:59<p><span>🎙️ 本期简介</span></p><span></span><p><span>写代码和做投资，听起来是两条平行的职业轨迹，但如果跨过去会发生什么？</span></p><span></span><p><span>本期节目，我们邀请了两位从软件工程师成功转型为风险投资（VC）基金管理人的朋友。他们将和大家分享从“大厂码农”走向“一级市场投资人”的心路历程。从早期的试水投资，到全职做基金，他们是如何完成从 0 到 1 的跃迁的？工程师的背景在投资中究竟是降维打击还是水土不服？</span></p><span></span><p><span>此外，面对当下热议的“AI 泡沫”，两位从 VC 视角给出了深度的结构性拆解，并为普通打工人和小投资者送上了一份实用的“防坑与上车指南”。</span></p><span></span><p><span>无论你是对 VC 行业充满好奇，还是正在思考职业转型的工程师，或是想在 AI 浪潮中寻找机会的投资者，这期节目都不容错过！</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：Cindy, Tao</span><br><span>主播：Vindy, Cat</span><br><span>剪辑&amp;时间线：季雨清</span></p><span></span><p><span>⏱️ 时间轴 (Timeline)</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a></span></span><span> 片头</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:01:43"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="103">00:01:43</a></span></span><span> 什么是 VC（风险投资）？—— 简单通俗聊聊一级市场与二级市场的区别</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:03:12"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="192">00:03:12</a></span></span><span> VC 的历史与演变</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:04:43"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="283">00:04:43</a></span></span><span> 工程师转型 VC 的起点 —— 什么时候意识到“写代码不是唯一路径”？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:06:10"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="370">00:06:10</a></span></span><span> 从 0 到 1 做 VC 的真实挑战 —— 启动资金要多少？第一批 LP 怎么找？如何拿到好项目的份额？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:24:45"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1485">00:24:45</a></span></span><span> 合伙人的日常与分工 —— Sourcing、出差、法律流程与 LP 维护，哪一项最耗费精力？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:28:37"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1717">00:28:37</a></span></span><span> 工程师背景在投资中的“护城河” —— 哪些是可迁移的 Skill Set？哪些习惯需要去克服？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:32:07"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1927">00:32:07</a></span></span><span> 做 VC 的真实感受 —— 相比大厂写代码，自主性、成就感和人际压力发生了什么变化？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:40:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2456">00:40:56</a></span></span><span> 【热点探讨】AI 行业到底有没有泡沫？ —— 现在的估值逻辑与 2000 年互联网泡沫有何本质/结构性差异？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:50:33"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3033">00:50:33</a></span></span><span> 普通人在 AI 时代的生存与投资指南 —— 码农和小投资者如何参与这轮浪潮而不被坑？</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：By Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a1fad2d92551efcffa6f13chttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a1fad2d92551efcffa6f13cWed, 03 Jun 2026 04:25:29 GMT0:55:00<p><span>这期播客我们来聊聊听起来有点硬核、但其实很有意思的“量子计算”。</span></p><span></span><p><span>大家平时可能经常听到这个词，但它到底是个啥？为什么我们需要它？它和现在的AI有什么关系？这期节目我们就来顺一顺这些问题。不管你是单纯对前沿科技好奇，还是真的考虑进入这个行业，都可以来听听看。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：C教授</span><br><span>主播：斯图亚特</span><br><span>剪辑&amp;时间线：季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a></span></span><span> 片头</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:01:02"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="62">00:01:02</a></span></span><span> 为什么做量子计算</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:04:26"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="266">00:04:26</a></span></span><span> 什么是量子</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:10:39"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="639">00:10:39</a></span></span><span> 量子计算机的“量子”是什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:11:52"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="712">00:11:52</a></span></span><span> 为什么需要量子计算</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:14:50"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="890">00:14:50</a></span></span><span> 量子计算机是如何实现的</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:20:40"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1240">00:20:40</a></span></span><span> 可逆计算与能量耗散</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:27:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1676">00:27:56</a></span></span><span> Shor算法</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:33:28"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2008">00:33:28</a></span></span><span> 无结构搜索问题</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:38:33"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2313">00:38:33</a></span></span><span> 什么是量子态</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:43:02"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2582">00:43:02</a></span></span><span> 量子计算是如何工作的</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:54:33"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3273">00:54:33</a></span></span><span> 量子程序是什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:58:44"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3524">00:58:44</a></span></span><span> 量子计算有哪些应用</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:01:08"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3668">01:01:08</a></span></span><span> 量子计算和AI</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:04:48"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3888">01:04:48</a></span></span><span> 量子计算为什么突然火了</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:08:07"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4087">01:08:07</a></span></span><span> 什么是逻辑比特</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:10:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4256">01:10:56</a></span></span><span> 当前从业人员在做什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:15:17"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4517">01:15:17</a></span></span><span> 未来5–10年的发展趋势</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:17:06"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4626">01:17:06</a></span></span><span> 如何进入量子计算领域</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：By Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69f4d4dd1913243b15f42f1fhttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69f4d4dd1913243b15f42f1fFri, 01 May 2026 16:20:57 GMT1:21:06<p><span>不知道你有没有这种感觉：每天早上睁开眼打开手机，三年内99%的工作又要被AI替代了，又有人一天就用AI搭建了一个什么不明觉厉的东西，又有新的公司新的模型新的AI产品震撼世界了。</span></p><span></span><p><span>天天看着这些，作为一个普通人，我们在这个时代，到底每天，该怎么办呢？</span></p><span></span><p><span>为了回答这个问题，我们请到了老朋友，课代表立正。他很有趣，他曾经在中美顶尖的大厂和创业公司作过数据科学总监，但现在他全职在做面向普通人的AI教育。他有着挺收欢迎的自媒体频道，评分挺高的AI课程，以及一个满是普通人活跃的AI社区，里面的氛围每天似乎挺欢乐的。</span></p><span></span><p><span>所以，他和他社群里的那些普通人，他们是如何面对AI的呢？什么样的普通人能在这个AI时代不逃避又不焦虑？但愿这期能给我们带来一些启发！</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：课代表立正，Superlinear Academy社区创办人，先后在Amazon、Meta、腾讯、Statsig从事数据科学工作。（联系方式：欢迎在superlinear.academy DM联系。企业有培训需求，可以在corp-training.ai-builders.com找到我）</span><br><span>主播：Sean、Cat</span><br><span>剪辑&amp;时间线：季雨清</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>时间线</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a></span></span><span> 片头</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:05:51"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="351">00:05:51</a></span></span><span> 什么是"普通人"</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:06:48"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="408">00:06:48</a></span></span><span> 哪些人在学AI</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:14:57"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="897">00:14:57</a></span></span><span> “AI焦虑”</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:19:20"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1160">00:19:20</a></span></span><span> 社交媒体上的理想自己</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:29:43"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1783">00:29:43</a></span></span><span> 为什么我们要“Build”</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:40:27"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2427">00:40:27</a></span></span><span> “我是不是没有把AI用到极致？”</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:47:14"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2834">00:47:14</a></span></span><span> 哪些生活例子可以AI？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:52:30"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3150">00:52:30</a></span></span><span> AI有什么好教的？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:54:28"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3268">00:54:28</a></span></span><span> “好学生” VS “坏学生”</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:01:46"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3706">01:01:46</a></span></span><span> 做题家的危害</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:03:26"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3806">01:03:26</a></span></span><span> 普通人和AI的鸿沟是什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:17:25"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4645">01:17:25</a></span></span><span> AGI来了吗？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:24:03"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5043">01:24:03</a></span></span><span> AI无所不知无所不能之后人的价值是什么？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:29:28"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5368">01:29:28</a></span></span><span> 为什么说知识工作会消亡</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:31:18"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5478">01:31:18</a></span></span><span> 如何拥有“独到见解”</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:31:54"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5514">01:31:54</a></span></span><span> 未来展望</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于课代表立正的「AI Builders」课程</span></strong><br><span>AI Builders 是由课代表立正和鸭哥两位藤校博士主讲的Top AI 课程，已经持续迭代了两年多，迭代了 11 期，在 Maven 上评分 4.9/5，累计学员2000+。课程承诺一次购买，终身更新、终身答疑、终身社区。</span></p><span></span><p><span>听众专属 Bundle Coupon:</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><a href="http://coding.ai-builders.com/" data-url="http://coding.ai-builders.com"><span>AI时代编程基础</span></a><span>: 折扣码 AVOCADOAI ，¥409 -&gt; ¥249</span></li><span></span><li><a href="http://ai-builders.com/" data-url="http://ai-builders.com/"><span>AI主课bundle</span></a><span>：折扣码 AVOCADO，¥7345 -&gt; ¥6745</span></li><span></span><li><span>也可以</span><a href="http://go.ai-builders.com/Avocado" data-url="http://go.ai-builders.com/Avocado"><span>进社群围观</span></a></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：By ai-builders.com</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69af96999e77d8f89f26350dhttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69af96999e77d8f89f26350dTue, 10 Mar 2026 03:50:56 GMT1:37:54<p><span>嘉宾： Shihang（Webjourney创始人）、曲晓音（HeyBoss创始人）</span><br><span>主播：斯图亚特、Vindy、Cat、David</span><br><span>剪辑&amp;时间线：季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a></span></span><span> 片头</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:00:54"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="54">00:00:54</a></span></span><span> 嘉宾介绍</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:05:07"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="307">00:05:07</a></span></span><span> AI对初创企业的工作产生了怎样的影响</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:07:54"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="474">00:07:54</a></span></span><span> 从销售角度看，AI在改变什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:10:07"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="607">00:10:07</a></span></span><span> 工程师怎么看AI对工作的影响</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:14:37"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="877">00:14:37</a></span></span><span> 产品经理这个角色还需要吗</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:26:28"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1588">00:26:28</a></span></span><span> AI对大公司里的工作产生了怎样的影响</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:30:02"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1802">00:30:02</a></span></span><span> 有了AI，工作快了多少</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:36:13"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2173">00:36:13</a></span></span><span> 效率提高后，可以做的事情更多了吗</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:38:35"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2315">00:38:35</a></span></span><span> 传统的沟通流程还需要吗</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:49:36"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2976">00:49:36</a></span></span><span> 编程效率提高后，如何转换为产品迭代速度</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:52:59"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3179">00:52:59</a></span></span><span> “非码农写原型”是否有发生</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:58:33"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3513">00:58:33</a></span></span><span> 未来的工作模式可能会是什么样</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Generated by Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69730245616d6a2793436889https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69730245616d6a2793436889Fri, 23 Jan 2026 05:02:38 GMT1:22:19<p><span>一眨眼，又到了年底，又到了我们该做年末好物推荐的时候。这次除了各个类别的好物推荐外，我们还新增了一个小环节，每个主播分享今年最有感触的一件事。2025年里，你找到了哪些好东西，又留下了什么感触呢？</span></p><span></span><p><span>主播：Sean, 斯图亚特, Cat, Vindy, David</span><br><span>剪辑：Sean</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>推荐清单</span></strong><br><span>图书</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span>鱼，不存在（Sean）</span></li><span></span><li><span>猫鱼（David）</span></li><span></span><li><span>西线无战事（David）</span></li><span></span><li><span>The Sexual Evolution: How 500 Million Years of Sex, Gender, and Mating Shape Modern Relationships By Nathan H Lents (斯图亚特）</span></li><span></span><li><span>Quantum Supremacy: How the Quantum Computer Revolution Will Change Everything (斯图亚特）</span></li><span></span><li><span>杨振宁传 (vindy)</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span>电影</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span>4DX的「疯狂动物城」（Sean）</span></li><span></span><li><span>浪浪山小妖怪（David）</span></li><span></span><li><span>K-pop Demon Hunter (斯图亚特）</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span>电视</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span>Task（David）</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span>播客</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span>AI翻译的外国播客（Sean）</span></li><span></span><li><span>Lenny's Podcast (David)</span></li><span></span><li><span>张小珺商业访谈录（David）</span></li><span></span><li><span>岩中花述（David）</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span>游戏</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span>Vampire Therapist (Cat)</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span>数码</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span>Whoop 手环（David）</span></li><span></span><li><span>Lingo（Vindy）</span></li><span></span><li><span>Playstation Portal（Sean）</span></li><span></span><li><span>Bluetooth Wireless Audio Transmitter Adapter（Sean）</span></li><span></span><li><span>移动屏幕（Sean）</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span>其它</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span>图拉斯手机壳（Vindy）</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请</span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>点击这里</span></a><span>看我们的招募帖；或者对我们的节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Nano Banana生成</span></p><span></span><p><span>本集音乐</span><br><span>1 Julia Stone: 《All I want for Christmas is you》</span><br><span>2 New York jazz trio: 《Last Christmas 》</span><br><span>3 Vince Guaraldi: 《Christmas time is here》</span><br><span>4 Pasquale Grasso: 《Have yourself a Merry little Christmas》</span><br><span>5 Joe Pass: 《It came upon a midnight clear》</span><br><span>6 Scott Hamilton: 《White Christmas》</span><br><span>7 Oscar Peterson: 《What Child is this?》</span><br><span>8 Oscar Peterson: 《A child is Born》</span><br><span>9 Stanley Jordan: 《Silent Night》</span><br><span>10 Dexter Gordon: 《The Christmas Song》</span><br><span>11 Bobby Timmons: 《Auld Lang Syne》</span><br><span>12 Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/694e5d66fc321d8165cd855chttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/694e5d66fc321d8165cd855cFri, 26 Dec 2025 09:50:14 GMT1:30:56<p><span>本期节目我们请到了人工智能领域的专家，也是 #134期的返场嘉宾 Mengdi 来给我们介绍 AI Agent 智能体，它是怎么一回事，目前有哪些挑战，以及它在未来科学研究上的发展方向。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：Mengdi</span><br><span>主播：斯图亚特、Vindy、Cat、David</span><br><span>策划：Vindy</span><br><span>场地：David</span><br><span>剪辑&amp;时间线：季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:01:27"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="87">00:01:27</a></span></span><span> Agent是什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:08:22"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="502">00:08:22</a></span></span><span> 智能体的基本架构</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:17:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1076">00:17:56</a></span></span><span> 智能体的技术难点与解决方案</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:30:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1856">00:30:56</a></span></span><span> 修改提示词比微调模型更有效？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:37:12"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2232">00:37:12</a></span></span><span> 什么是RAG（检索增强生成）</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:40:21"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2421">00:40:21</a></span></span><span> 大模型领域最近在研究什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:40:52"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2452">00:40:52</a></span></span><span> 智能体研究的门槛</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:42:50"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2570">00:42:50</a></span></span><span> 自演化的AI</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:51:02"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3062">00:51:02</a></span></span><span> 普通人构建一个智能体有多难？</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:52:19"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3139">00:52:19</a></span></span><span> 研究兴趣的转变</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:54:45"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3285">00:54:45</a></span></span><span> 回看过去半年的技术发展</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Generated by Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/692f3d58d981f2a13b17bab2https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/692f3d58d981f2a13b17bab2Tue, 02 Dec 2025 19:21:46 GMT0:58:15<p><span>AI技术发展到今天，关于AI取代人的工作的讨论甚嚣尘上。未来的世界，人类和AI该如何相处呢？我们请回了之前“以人为中心的人工智能”一期的嘉宾，芝加哥大学的谭宸浩教授来和我们讨论这个话题。我们首先讨论了新的AI在透明度和公平性方面的变化。之后我们讨论了嘉宾认为未来的科学研究领域里人类和AI可以扮演的角色。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：谭宸浩</span><br><span>主播： 斯图亚特、Vindy</span><br><span>剪辑： 季雨清</span><br><span>时间线： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:01:16"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="76">00:01:16</a></span></span><span> 人本AI领域近况</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:24:24"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1464">00:24:24</a></span></span><span> NLP业内人怎么看大模型时代</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:31:52"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1912">00:31:52</a></span></span><span> 为什么好奇AI能否取代科学家</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:35:38"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2138">00:35:38</a></span></span><span> 科学是怎样运作的</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:39:29"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2369">00:39:29</a></span></span><span> AI可以如何帮助科研</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:41:45"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2505">00:41:45</a></span></span><span> 全自动AI科研假设</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:00:19"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3619">01:00:19</a></span></span><span> 如何让科学发展以人为本</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:07:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4020">01:07:00</a></span></span><span> 从GPT时刻到今天的心路历程</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Generated by Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69111278111f33a6bd63257dhttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69111278111f33a6bd63257dSun, 09 Nov 2025 22:04:42 GMT1:12:17<p><span>直至今日的2025年，AI给整个科技行业带来影响已经毋庸置疑，有些人甚至把AI称作对整个产品创业的革命性的范式颠覆。这期节目，我们请来了先后在Amazon与Google从事AI产品并给多家startup提供咨询的Roger从解决方案、护城河运营等多个角度和大家聊一聊AI到底对产品创新与创业带来什么样的影响。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：Roger</span><br><span>主播： Sean、Vindy、David</span><br><span>剪辑： 季雨清</span><br><span>时间线： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:02:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="120">00:02:00</a></span></span><span> AI浪潮下的产品创新与范式转变</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:05:04"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="304">00:05:04</a></span></span><span> 规模、定制化和质量的三难困境</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:08:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="536">00:08:56</a></span></span><span> AI如何破局“三难”</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:20:51"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1251">00:20:51</a></span></span><span> 如何避免“拿锤找钉子”</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:25:37"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1537">00:25:37</a></span></span><span> AI创业浪潮中的精益创业模式</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:41:01"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2461">00:41:01</a></span></span><span> AI产品的护城河在哪</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:46:08"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2768">00:46:08</a></span></span><span> 千人千面的产品如何管理</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:56:25"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3385">00:56:25</a></span></span><span> AI创业未必依赖VC融资</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Generated by Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/68fae34ff661f687813faec3https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/68fae34ff661f687813faec3Fri, 24 Oct 2025 02:27:17 GMT1:01:33<p><span>本期节目，我们和嘉宾讨论了基因编辑是什么，CRISPR技术是怎么回事，以及这一技术应用到了什么程度以及未来。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：斯坦福大学的Lester博士</span></p><span></span><p><span>主播： 斯图亚特、Vindy</span></p><span></span><p><span>剪辑： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><p><span>时间线： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:01:28"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="88">00:01:28</a></span></span><span> 为什么从电子系转到生物系</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:09:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="540">00:09:00</a></span></span><span> 什么是基因编辑</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:13:42"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="822">00:13:42</a></span></span><span> 基因等于DNA吗</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:14:43"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="883">00:14:43</a></span></span><span> 基因编辑的尺度</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:17:53"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1073">00:17:53</a></span></span><span> 活体基因编辑</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:22:04"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1324">00:22:04</a></span></span><span> 药物递送</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:25:50"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1550">00:25:50</a></span></span><span> 血脑屏障</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:28:20"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1700">00:28:20</a></span></span><span> CRISPR是什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:31:47"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1907">00:31:47</a></span></span><span> CRISPR的溯源</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:33:12"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1992">00:33:12</a></span></span><span> 为什么说CRISPR是万能钥匙</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:44:13"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2653">00:44:13</a></span></span><span> 人类没有CRISPR</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:53:16"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3196">00:53:16</a></span></span><span> CRISPR蛋白还有创新空间吗</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:54:38"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3278">00:54:38</a></span></span><span> 剪开DNA之后，怎么缝上</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:59:43"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3583">00:59:43</a></span></span><span> 创造新生物的可能</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:01:21"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3681">01:01:21</a></span></span><span> 未来大规模替换的可能</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:11:51"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4311">01:11:51</a></span></span><span> CRISPR的普及</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:20:18"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4818">01:20:18</a></span></span><span> AI与基因编辑</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Generated by Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/68e58fff9c0fb09739d12416https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/68e58fff9c0fb09739d12416Tue, 07 Oct 2025 07:03:53 GMT1:24:04<p><span>本期节目，牛油果烤面包播客和</span><a href="https://pythonhunter.org/" data-url="https://pythonhunter.org/"><span>捕蛇者说播客</span></a><span>串台。捕蛇者说主播中的两个是网站可靠性工程师（SRE）。他们今天在节目中介绍了一下这个职业是干什么，需要什么技能，职业的发展趋势以及职业发展。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：</span><a href="https://www.kawabangga.com/" data-url="https://www.kawabangga.com/"><span>laixintao</span></a><span>、</span><a href="https://x.com/Manjusaka_Lee" data-url="https://x.com/Manjusaka_Lee"><span>Manjusaka</span></a></p><span></span><p><span>主播： 斯图亚特</span></p><span></span><p><span>剪辑： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><p><span>时间线： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:02:10"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="130">00:02:10</a></span></span><span> 播客：捕蛇者说</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:03:45"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="225">00:03:45</a></span></span><span> 嘉宾介绍</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:05:59"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="359">00:05:59</a></span></span><span> SRE是什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:08:14"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="494">00:08:14</a></span></span><span> 假设复刻抖音，需要什么</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:17:19"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1039">00:17:19</a></span></span><span> SRE的具体职责</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:18:09"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1089">00:18:09</a></span></span><span> 发布</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:26:30"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1590">00:26:30</a></span></span><span> 扩缩容</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:28:34"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1714">00:28:34</a></span></span><span> 不同服务层：业务、平台、基础设施</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:31:02"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1862">00:31:02</a></span></span><span> SRE在不同服务层中的职责</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:31:51"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1911">00:31:51</a></span></span><span> 有了云商还需要SRE吗</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:35:32"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2132">00:35:32</a></span></span><span> SRE的历史</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:51:16"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3076">00:51:16</a></span></span><span> “DevOps”</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:55:32"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3332">00:55:32</a></span></span><span> 成为SRE需要哪些技能</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:07:10"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4030">01:07:10</a></span></span><span> SRE的职业发展</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:15:57"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4557">01:15:57</a></span></span><span> 荐番：花薰凛然</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Generated by Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6892c394b85e0f8968970001https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6892c394b85e0f8968970001Wed, 06 Aug 2025 02:44:40 GMT1:17:05<p><span>主播们聊了聊各自在生活和工作中使用各种AI工具的感受，以及它们的不同特点。</span></p><span></span><p><span>主播： 斯图亚特、Vindy、Sean Wang、Cat Chen、David Gao</span></p><span></span><p><span>剪辑： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><p><span>时间线： 季雨清</span></p><span></span><ul><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:04:35"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="275">00:04:35</a></span></span><span> 早期AI对日常生活和工作的影响</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:04:41"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="281">00:04:41</a></span></span><span> 文本润色</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:07:50"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="470">00:07:50</a></span></span><span> 心理咨询</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:11:03"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="663">00:11:03</a></span></span><span> 知识学习</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:13:37"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="817">00:13:37</a></span></span><span> 图像生成</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:16:38"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="998">00:16:38</a></span></span><span> 育儿辅助</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:18:19"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1099">00:18:19</a></span></span><span> 倾诉对象</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:19:54"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1194">00:19:54</a></span></span><span> 当前AI在职场中的应用</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:20:04"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1204">00:20:04</a></span></span><span> 编程辅助</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:35:20"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2120">00:35:20</a></span></span><span> 学习助手</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:37:56"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2276">00:37:56</a></span></span><span> 生成播客</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:39:58"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2398">00:39:58</a></span></span><span> 项目咨询</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:41:33"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2493">00:41:33</a></span></span><span> 企业内部信息整合</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:43:46"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2626">00:43:46</a></span></span><span> 音视频制作</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:47:18"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2838">00:47:18</a></span></span><span> 工作流自动化</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:50:00"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3000">00:50:00</a></span></span><span> AI Agent</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:50:18"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3018">00:50:18</a></span></span><span> 当前AI的其他应用场景</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:50:32"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3032">00:50:32</a></span></span><span> 多层次搜索与内容整合</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=00:56:28"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3388">00:56:28</a></span></span><span> AI导游</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:01:26"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3686">01:01:26</a></span></span><span> 旅行规划</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:04:18"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3858">01:04:18</a></span></span><span> 播客创作</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:08:34"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4114">01:08:34</a></span></span><span> 宫崎骏风格图像生成</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:10:44"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4244">01:10:44</a></span></span><span> 写段子</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:12:04"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4324">01:12:04</a></span></span><span> 小说创作</span></li><span></span><li><span href="#t=01:16:49"><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4609">01:16:49</a></span></span><span> AI的另一面</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span>关于「牛油果烤面包」</span></strong><br><span>「牛油果烤面包」播客入选2020苹果最佳播客，获得年度编辑推荐，聊科技发展趋势，聊各行业来龙去脉。我们坐标硅谷，邀请第一线的资深专家分享给大家听！</span></p><span></span><p><span>欢迎您在每期节目下方给我们留言，和我们的主播互动交流，或是添加微信小助手nygkmb2022，加入微信听友群。如果您对我们的志愿者工作有兴趣，请点击 </span><a href="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer" data-url="https://avocadotoast.typlog.io/volunteer"><span>这个链接</span></a><span> 看我们的招募帖；你有什么有趣的话题，想来作牛油果烤面包的嘉宾，或是对节目有任何的意见或建议，欢迎发邮件和我们联系。我们的邮件地址是：host@avocadotoast.live</span></p><span></span><p><span>图片：Generated by Gemini</span></p><span></span><p><span>片头片尾音乐：</span><br><span>Courante 1st Cello Suite</span><br><span>Exzel Music Publishing (freemusicpublicdomain.com)</span><br><span>Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0</span><br><span></span><a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/" data-url="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/"><span>creativecommons.org</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/68856aa5c5966727153ad680https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/68856aa5c5966727153ad680Sat, 26 Jul 2025 23:49:53 GMT1:26:17