https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6281264ad22bcf3950c80b56科技博主「两颗皮蛋」的播客频道 CPA 2025 年度科技数码类播客 对谈不同行业的产品经理，发现科技背后更广大的世界 - Powered by RSSHubRSSHubcontact@rsshub.app (RSSHub)皮蛋漫游记falseenhttps://image.xyzcdn.net/FvD_Tu-bDMgu9ATxQk4PMDRvAoio.PNG@smallhttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6281264ad22bcf3950c80b56Sat, 17 Oct 2026 00:40:33 GMT5<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong></p><p><span>这期「周期」系列，我们请来了《三五环》《半拿铁》的主播刘飞，从他作为产品经理进入锤子科技的经历聊起，重新走过移动互联网创业、O2O 补贴大战，以及后来在滴滴、阿里的职业阶段。</span></p><p><span>在小米和锤子之间做选择时，他认真分析过；参与上门美甲创业、进入更大的平台时，他也做过规划。但那些被寄予厚望的期权，后来大多没能兑现，原本只是出于好奇心和表达欲开始的播客，却逐渐成为了他的全职工作。</span></p><p><span>我们聊锤子对设计细节的执着，也聊理想主义背后的管理问题；聊一个服务能不能被做成平台，也聊产品经理为什么有时改变不了真正的产品。到了《三五环》和《半拿铁》，话题又转向内容的差异化、稳定供给、商业合作，以及 AI 时代创作者还能提供什么。回看这些选择，刘飞所说的「命」，更接近对随机性的承认：认真判断、持续尝试，同时接受许多结果无法在出发前想清楚。</span></p><p><strong><span>主播</span></strong></p><p><span>零号、初号——「两颗皮蛋」主理人，《皮蛋漫游记》主播</span></p><p><strong><span>嘉宾</span></strong></p><p><span>刘飞——《三五环》《半拿铁》主播、内容创作者，曾在锤子科技、滴滴、阿里工作，并有多段创业经历。</span></p><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a></span></strong><strong><span> 从一场约了两年的对谈说起</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="113">01:53</a></span></strong><strong><span> 移动互联网刚起步时，大家相信什么都能做</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="322">05:22</a></span></strong><strong><span> 同时拿到小米和锤子的 offer，为什么选了锤子</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="538">08:58</a></span></strong><strong><span> 罗永浩的产品敏锐度，与锤子缺少的整体性</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="633">10:33</a></span></strong><strong><span> 参与 T1：白色玻璃背板背后的反复打磨</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="833">13:53</a></span></strong><strong><span> 一间会议室里的艺术家、工程师与管理者</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1202">20:02</a></span></strong><strong><span> T1 发布之后，为什么选择离开</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1257">20:57</a></span></strong><strong><span> 离开之后，锤子仍然留下了什么</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1698">28:18</a></span></strong><strong><span> O2O 最疯狂的时候，注册账号就能直接领钱</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1899">31:39</a></span></strong><strong><span> 上门美甲有需求，为什么还是没跑出平台模式</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2273">37:53</a></span></strong><strong><span> 当真正的产品是服务，软件产品经理还能做什么</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2416">40:16</a></span></strong><strong><span> 因为知乎上的交流，被俞军招进滴滴</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2718">45:18</a></span></strong><strong><span> 高峰期打不到车，能不能用产品手段解决</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2923">48:43</a></span></strong><strong><span> 产品经理能做决策，还是只能努力影响决策</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3167">52:47</a></span></strong><strong><span> 《三五环》起点：把与朋友的聊天录下来</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3369">56:09</a></span></strong><strong><span> 没有一次突然爆红，《三五环》是怎样长起来的</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3570">59:30</a></span></strong><strong><span> 认真分析的职业选择，和无心插柳的内容创作</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3697">01:01:37</a></span></strong><strong><span> 硬件与互联网的产品经理，做的其实是不同的工作</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3964">01:06:04</a></span></strong><strong><span> 苹果文案、塞尔达，以及人与人之间的播客缘分</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4238">01:10:38</a></span></strong><strong><span> 《半拿铁》怎么开始：从一起打游戏到一起讲商业故事</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4496">01:14:56</a></span></strong><strong><span> 从依赖嘉宾，到建立稳定的内容供给</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4628">01:17:08</a></span></strong><strong><span> 副业收入超过主业之后，为什么没有马上辞职</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4771">01:19:31</a></span></strong><strong><span> AI 用上了刘飞和潇磊的声音，会稀释《半拿铁》吗</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4931">01:22:11</a></span></strong><strong><span> AI 能搜资料、写稿子，创作者还提供什么</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5325">01:28:45</a></span></strong><strong><span> 把播客当产品：迭代风格，也摸索商业模式</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5571">01:32:51</a></span></strong><strong><span> 刘飞所说的「命」，到底是什么</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5825">01:37:05</a></span></strong><strong><span> 多经历几个周期，才能知道自己适合什么</span></strong></p><p><strong><span>本文提及</span></strong></p><p><strong><span>播客与相关单集</span></strong></p><p><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/5e280fab418a84a0461faa3c" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/5e280fab418a84a0461faa3c"><span>《三五环》｜刘飞</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/62382c1103bea1ebfffa1c00" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/62382c1103bea1ebfffa1c00"><span>《半拿铁》｜刘飞、潇磊</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/682c566cc7c5f17595635a2c" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/682c566cc7c5f17595635a2c"><span>《半拿铁·周刊》</span></a></p><p><a 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data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1QE411A7rA/"><span>《苹果的文案到底骚在哪？5点分析带你学习》｜刘飞 Lufy</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1V14y1R7Rk/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1V14y1R7Rk/"><span>《［护城河］苹果，重新定义 HDR》｜两颗皮蛋</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.sohu.com/a/342073317_694193" data-url="https://www.sohu.com/a/342073317_694193"><span>《“网红”刘飞的自我剖析》｜刘飞</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1F44y1W7QT/?p=8" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1F44y1W7QT/?p=8"><span>《米店》｜2015 年坚果手机文青版发布会现场</span></a></p><p><strong><span>书籍与产品</span></strong></p><p><a href="https://book.douban.com/subject/5376384/" data-url="https://book.douban.com/subject/5376384/"><span>《结网》｜王坚</span></a></p><p><a href="https://read.douban.com/ebook/12217892/" data-url="https://read.douban.com/ebook/12217892/"><span>《人人都是产品经理》｜苏杰</span></a></p><p><a href="https://read.douban.com/ebook/130595723/" data-url="https://read.douban.com/ebook/130595723/"><span>《俞军产品方法论》｜俞军等</span></a></p><p><a href="https://read.douban.com/ebook/639784441/" data-url="https://read.douban.com/ebook/639784441/"><span>《李诞脱口秀工作手册》｜李诞</span></a></p><p><a href="https://flomoapp.com/" data-url="https://flomoapp.com/"><span>flomo 浮墨笔记</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6ad1ebf60e4e410a05bddedbhttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6ad1ebf60e4e410a05bddedbFri, 16 Oct 2026 10:12:24 GMT1:39:56<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong></p><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FoNf-vJuTzM8YDovKOnxY0-xHe7I.png" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><p><a href="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=0" data-url="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=0"><span></span></a><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a><span> 苹果秋季新品芯片技术深度讨论</span></p><p><a href="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=1373000" data-url="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=1373000"><span></span></a><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1373">22:53</a><span> 苹果相关新品屏下设计与芯片适配思路讨论</span></p><p><a href="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=1638000" data-url="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=1638000"><span></span></a><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1638">27:18</a><span> 苹果自研基带进展及相关产品展望讨论</span></p><p><a href="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=1874000" data-url="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=1874000"><span></span></a><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1874">31:14</a><span> 苹果M系列芯片AI能力与本地Agent体验展望</span></p><p><a href="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=2268000" data-url="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=2268000"><span></span></a><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2268">37:48</a><span> 苹果Mac产品线定位及AI推理相关发展讨论</span></p><p><a href="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=2508000" data-url="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/minutes/obcnzb7r6c9dt8lfr7sa68d4?t=2508000"><span></span></a><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2508">41:48</a><span> iPhone折叠屏产品特性与行业意义探讨</span></p><p></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6aa517cd9d3264778167fd10https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6aa517cd9d3264778167fd10Sat, 12 Sep 2026 09:21:11 GMT1:00:48<h2><span>概述</span></h2><p><span>这期小米影像视频播客，从一次回到甘肃庆阳的拍摄之旅聊起。</span></p><p><span>同样是离开家乡多年，零号、初号、韩冲和刘小川对「故乡」有着截然不同的感受：有人看着老城迅速扩张，有人的家在求学期间突然搬迁，也有人直到成为父亲，才开始认真追问自己的根究竟在哪里。</span></p><p><span>我们聊到黄土高原的沟壑、北石窟寺与环县道情皮影，也聊到水域如何塑造童年记忆，方言为什么会慢慢生疏，以及家乡怎样在不知不觉中影响一个人的性格与职业选择。当镜头从远方转回故乡，摄影不再只是记录风景，更是在为记忆寻找证据，也是在给下一代留下一条可以回望的路。</span></p><h2><span>主播</span></h2><p><span>韩冲——小米影像视频播客主播</span></p><p><span>刘小川——小米影像视频播客主播</span></p><h2><span>嘉宾</span></h2><p><span>零号——「两颗皮蛋」主播，家乡甘肃庆阳</span></p><p><span>初号——「两颗皮蛋」主播，家乡吉林省吉林市</span></p><h2><span>时间轴</span></h2><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a> 从一次聊天到一场返乡拍摄</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="126">02:06</a> 初见庆阳：熟悉又陌生的黄土高原</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="317">05:17</a> 下到沟底，重新理解当地人的生活</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="491">08:11</a> 北石窟寺与黄土高原上的精神寄托</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="778">12:58</a> 零号为什么离开庆阳</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="916">15:16</a> 在水边长大的人</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1079">17:59</a> 三线建设留下的军工厂记忆</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1210">20:10</a> 葛洲坝、长江与课本里的诗句</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1462">24:22</a> 从东北出发，去往昆明</span></strong></p><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1725">28:45</a> 专业与职业把人推向远方</span></strong></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a910397ef65145dfcc6a9b1https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a910397ef65145dfcc6a9b1Fri, 28 Aug 2026 04:26:30 GMT1:12:45<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong></p><p><span>本期嘉宾是先看评测创始人王亮，更多人熟悉他的另一个名字：Mr. 厉害。从魅族论坛里的网名，到爱否科技的内容与管理工作，再到创立先看评测，他的经历几乎贯穿了中国科技媒体从蛮荒期走向成熟商业化的全过程。</span></p><p><span>我们从爱否时期的第一支 GoPro 视频和评测内容里的“尾巴”聊起，回到科技媒体尚未找到稳定收入的年代；也复盘离开大公司、组建团队、迁往深圳、获得百大，以及把评测能力带进净水器、大路灯等产品的过程。最后，话题落在一个更现实的问题上：当流量红利、产品差异和用户注意力同时退潮，自媒体还剩下什么价值？</span></p><p><strong><span>嘉宾</span></strong></p><p><span>王亮（Mr. 厉害）：先看评测创始人、内容创作者</span></p><p><strong><span>主播</span></strong></p><p><span>零号、初号</span></p><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00:00</a> 丨本期嘉宾与话题介绍</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="55">00:00:55</a> &nbsp;丨“Mr. 厉害”这个网名是怎么来的</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="181">00:03:01</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;丨在爱否制作的第一支 GoPro 视频</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="325">00:05:25</a> &nbsp;丨从爱否的“尾巴”聊到内容的感性表达</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="599">00:09:59</a> &nbsp;丨峰终效应、“升华”与过度套路化</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="619">00:10:19</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;丨仲树对话诺兰：识别套路不等于否定作品</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="717">00:11:57</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;丨英雄之旅与机核播客《原型》</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="764">00:12:44</a> &nbsp;丨科技媒体不赚钱的蛮荒年代</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1005">00:16:45</a> &nbsp;丨没有成熟变现时，投资人为什么愿意投媒体</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1282">00:21:22</a> &nbsp;丨被低估的流量价值与早期电商机会</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1588">00:26:28</a> &nbsp;丨评测发布后的厂商压力，以及宜家的另一种回应</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1802">00:30:02</a> &nbsp;丨不是好产品变少了，而是用户的注意力被分散了</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2085">00:34:45</a> &nbsp;丨内容竞争的背后，是公司规模与商业模式的比拼</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2236">00:37:16</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;丨为什么离开大公司，开始创业</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2939">00:48:59</a> &nbsp;丨创作者、管理者和经营者的能力分工</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3301">00:55:01</a> &nbsp;丨市场重新估价，让“出来干”变成必然选择</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3531">00:58:51</a> &nbsp;丨从创作到管理：先看评测的品牌化起点</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3774">01:02:54</a> &nbsp;丨为什么最终选择深圳</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4015">01:06:55</a> &nbsp;丨“先看”这个名字与消费决策的最后一环</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4200">01:10:00</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;丨站上 B 站百大舞台时，是不是已经到了人生巅峰</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4876">01:21:16</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;丨今天的先看：内容、电商、产品与 AI</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5179">01:26:19</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;丨从“翻译”走向“记者”，再亲自下场验证认知</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5220">01:27:00</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;丨先看的第一个产品为什么是净水器</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5496">01:31:36</a> &nbsp;&nbsp;丨当媒体亲自做产品，如何面对“既当裁判又当运动员”的质疑</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5764">01:36:04</a> &nbsp;丨公开成本和低毛利，为什么仍然无法解决规模问题</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="6225">01:43:45</a> &nbsp;丨自媒体做产品的舒适区与商业边界</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="6299">01:44:59</a> &nbsp;丨黄金时代之后，什么才是最重要的事</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="6740">01:52:20</a> &nbsp;丨 内容栏目的生命力，来自答案还是交锋</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="7137">01:58:57</a> &nbsp;丨中国不缺产品经理，缺把产品翻译给大众的人</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="7581">02:06:21</a> &nbsp;丨平台流量见顶，竞争从内容能力转向资源与投流</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="8034">02:13:54</a> &nbsp;丨行业长期下行时，自媒体如何重新找到社会价值</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="8284">02:18:04</a> &nbsp;丨自媒体不只是职业，也应成为每个人的基础能力</span></p><p><strong><span>引用内容：</span></strong></p><p><a href="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E5%AF%B9%E8%AF%9DMr%E5%8E%89%E5%AE%B3%EF%BC%8C%E6%88%90%E9%95%BF%E5%9C%A8%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E6%99%BA%E8%83%BD%E6%89%8B%E6%9C%BA%E7%9A%84%E8%9B%AE%E8%8D%92%E6%97%B6%E4%BB%A3%E6%9C%89%E5%A4%9A%E7%88%BD" data-url="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E5%AF%B9%E8%AF%9DMr%E5%8E%89%E5%AE%B3%EF%BC%8C%E6%88%90%E9%95%BF%E5%9C%A8%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B%BD%E6%99%BA%E8%83%BD%E6%89%8B%E6%9C%BA%E7%9A%84%E8%9B%AE%E8%8D%92%E6%97%B6%E4%BB%A3%E6%9C%89%E5%A4%9A%E7%88%BD"><span>《对话 Mr. 厉害，成长在中国智能手机的蛮荒时代有多爽？》｜我是 HYK</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXrkRy_TSI8" data-url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXrkRy_TSI8"><span>《GoPro HERO 4 Silver 上手体验》｜爱否科技</span></a></p><p><a href="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=99%25%20%E7%9A%84%E4%BA%BA%E5%A4%B1%E6%9C%9B%20WWDC2021%20%E4%B8%A4%E9%A2%97%E7%9A%AE%E8%9B%8B" data-url="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=99%25%20%E7%9A%84%E4%BA%BA%E5%A4%B1%E6%9C%9B%20WWDC2021%20%E4%B8%A4%E9%A2%97%E7%9A%AE%E8%9B%8B"><span>《99% 的人失望，是因为没看懂？WWDC 2021 解析》｜两颗皮蛋</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1x53d6hEnM/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1x53d6hEnM/"><span>《我的诺兰采访为啥在西方连夜火遍全网？》｜仲树</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/668e3c598fcadceb90503019" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/668e3c598fcadceb90503019"><span>《原型》｜机核播客</span></a></p><p><a href="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E7%88%B1%E5%90%A6%E5%87%BA%E5%93%81%20%E5%AE%9C%E5%AE%B6%E4%BB%80%E4%B9%88%E5%80%BC%E5%BE%97%E4%B9%B0" data-url="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E7%88%B1%E5%90%A6%E5%87%BA%E5%93%81%20%E5%AE%9C%E5%AE%B6%E4%BB%80%E4%B9%88%E5%80%BC%E5%BE%97%E4%B9%B0"><span>《爱否出品｜宜家什么值得买？》</span></a></p><p><a href="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E7%88%B1%E5%90%A6%E5%87%BA%E5%93%81%20%E5%AE%9C%E5%AE%B6%E4%BB%80%E4%B9%88%E4%B8%8D%E8%83%BD%E4%B9%B0" data-url="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E7%88%B1%E5%90%A6%E5%87%BA%E5%93%81%20%E5%AE%9C%E5%AE%B6%E4%BB%80%E4%B9%88%E4%B8%8D%E8%83%BD%E4%B9%B0"><span>《爱否出品｜宜家什么不能买？》</span></a></p><p><a href="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E6%B7%B1%E5%9C%B3%E9%9A%90%E8%97%8F%E7%A6%8F%E5%88%A9%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%80%20Mr%E5%8E%89%E5%AE%B3" data-url="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=%E6%B7%B1%E5%9C%B3%E9%9A%90%E8%97%8F%E7%A6%8F%E5%88%A9%E5%A4%A7%E5%85%AC%E5%BC%80%20Mr%E5%8E%89%E5%AE%B3"><span>《深圳隐藏福利大公开？来深圳必看的城市攻略》｜Mr. 厉害</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1oW421X7bA/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1oW421X7bA/"><span>《滤芯竟然这么便宜，我们自己 DIY 了一台满配净水器！》｜先看评测</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dxrYYbEsV/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dxrYYbEsV/"><span>《年度重构调研：vivo／OPPO／小米／荣耀的迷茫、困惑、误解与歧视》｜肉呆大魔王</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1thDaYzELR/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1thDaYzELR/"><span>《做一盏满配大路灯到底需要多少钱？我们去世界最大的灯具城试了试》｜先看评测</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dTaXzgEzv" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1dTaXzgEzv"><span>《挑战用 600 块做一盏好用的大路灯，如何堆料才能追平千元爆款？》｜先看评测</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a8edead1352af56ff3c79f2https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a8edead1352af56ff3c79f2Wed, 26 Aug 2026 13:10:39 GMT2:16:16<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong></p><p><span>这一期我们请来科技数码频道「热男 HotGuys」的两位联合创始人崔野和尹国威。</span></p><p><span>从《国行顶配 3》聊起，我们拆解了一条剧情向数码视频从创意、读稿、分镜、踩点、拍摄到后期审片的完整过程，也回到热男的创业起点：一群在爱搞机共事多年的伙伴，为什么只带着半年房租走出来创业，又如何让六位合伙人与一支十人团队稳定合作至今。这期也聊到内容团队很难绕开的问题：创意怎样拍板，商业合作为什么会选择热男，手机壳、贴纸、椰子鸡和辣椒酱为什么没能成为第二曲线；当小剧场不再稀缺、短视频改变内容消费、AI 开始生成视频，科技媒体还可以做多久？热男给出的答案很简单：只要还能覆盖成本，就一直做下去。媒介会变，观众会变，但让人开心仍然是一件有价值的事。</span></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1R6gK6vEGj/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1R6gK6vEGj/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click"><strong><span>视频版巨搞笑</span></strong></a></p><p><strong><span>嘉宾</span></strong></p><p><strong><span>崔野</span></strong><span>：热男 HotGuys 联合创始人、制片／编剧。</span></p><p><strong><span>尹国威</span></strong><span>：热男 HotGuys 联合创始人、导演。</span></p><p><strong><span>潮汕仔</span></strong><span>：热男 HotGuys 联合创始人</span></p><p><strong><span>主播</span></strong></p><p><strong><span>零号、初号</span></strong><span>：皮蛋漫游记主播。</span></p><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a> 丨认识热男 HotGuys &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="285">04:45</a> 丨《国行顶配 3》是怎样拍出来的 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="640">10:40</a> 丨从《老炮儿》到汽车哨兵模式 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="863">14:23</a> 丨热男如何一步步走到今天 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1160">19:20</a> 丨从同事、朋友到合伙人 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1360">22:40</a> 丨用半年房租启动一家公司 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1589">26:29</a> 丨全员创作者，谁来做最后决定 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1840">30:40</a> 丨为什么让更多成员走到镜头前 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2085">34:45</a> 丨把“电影梦”放进数码视频 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2227">37:07</a> 丨客户为什么为“好笑”买单 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2684">44:44</a> 丨为什么没有主动经营“资源链接器” &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2919">48:39</a> 丨想一直做到 80 岁 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3024">50:24</a> 丨AI 能替代“活人感”吗 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3091">51:31</a> &nbsp;丨文字、播客、长视频不是替代关系 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3237">53:57</a> 丨为什么没有把长视频直接切成短视频 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3314">55:14</a> 丨合伙人意见不一致时怎么办 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3558">59:18</a> 丨做播客的人如何持续输入</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3723">62:03</a> 丨长期输出，以及让人开心的价值 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3876">64:36</a> 丨三十年后留下来的，才是好东西 &nbsp;</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4015">66:55</a> 丨最近在听什么播客 &nbsp;</span></p><p><strong><span>本期提及</span></strong></p><p><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><a href="https://space.bilibili.com/17138783" data-url="https://space.bilibili.com/17138783"><span>热男 HotGuys｜哔哩哔哩</span></a></p><p><a href="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=iPhone%2013%20Pro%20Max%20%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE%E6%94%B9%E6%88%90%20%E5%9B%BD%20%E8%A1%8C%20%E9%A1%B6%20%E9%85%8D%20%E7%83%AD%E7%94%B7" data-url="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=iPhone%2013%20Pro%20Max%20%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE%E6%94%B9%E6%88%90%20%E5%9B%BD%20%E8%A1%8C%20%E9%A1%B6%20%E9%85%8D%20%E7%83%AD%E7%94%B7"><span>《iPhone 13 Pro Max，建议改成：国 行 顶 配》｜热男 HotGuys</span></a></p><p><a href="https://search.bilibili.com/all?keyword=iPhone%2015%20Pro%20Max%20%E5%BB%BA%E8%AE%AE%E6%94%B9%E6%88%90%20%E5%9B%BD%20%E8%A1%8C%20%E9%A1%B6%20%E9%85%8D%202%20%E7%83%AD%E7%94%B7" 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AI、人才培养和资源连接能力寻找第二增长曲线？最后，两组搭档也交流了合伙创业中的分工、信任与能力边界。</span></p><p></p><p><strong><span>嘉宾</span></strong></p><p><strong><span>林亦LYi —— 知名科技 AI 博主</span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a>｜新系列与嘉宾介绍</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="167">02:47</a>｜从算法工程师到内容创作者</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="404">06:44</a>｜一次失败带来的职业低谷</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="767">12:47</a>｜晓白加入与早期商业化</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1046">17:26</a>｜苹果采访带来的正向反馈</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1216">20:16</a>｜ChatGPT 改变内容方向</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1465">24:25</a>｜自媒体成为资源连接器</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1968">32:48</a>｜内容之外的商业化探索</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2307">38:27</a>｜从乙方市场走向甲方市场</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3040">50:40</a>｜观众也在发生变化</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3158">52:38</a>｜商业投流是否影响可信度</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3496">58:16</a>｜媒体如何穿越行业周期</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3695">01:01:35</a>｜寻找第二增长曲线</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4204">01:10:04</a>｜短视频承接商业压力</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4718">01:18:38</a>｜频道接下来的发展计划</span></p><p></p><p><strong><span>引用链接</span></strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FX4y1P7MC/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1FX4y1P7MC/"><span>《榨干电脑！一台游戏本挑战全寝开黑：比虚拟机更高效的多人一机方案》</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Lq4y1M7E2/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Lq4y1M7E2/"><span>《警惕 AI 外挂！我写了个枪枪爆头的 AI，又亲手“杀死”了它》</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jY4y1N7yj/" 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data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ADNc6dEoP/"><span>《视频播客：为什么人一上网就不能好好说话？》</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1d5411K7Ho/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1d5411K7Ho/"><span>《两个男孩纸的肥宅快乐屋｜桌面改造》｜林亦 LYi</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19W411W7ys/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV19W411W7ys/"><span>《网恋神器！Blue Yeti 麦克风评测》｜林亦 LYi</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a77efccc4079d62c57f7d47https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a77efccc4079d62c57f7d47Sun, 09 Aug 2026 03:26:10 GMT1:20:44<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong></p><p><span>本期节目从一个实际问题出发：OpenClaw 火了之后，它究竟能不能真正进入工作和生活，而不只是成为又一个需要折腾的新工具？结合团队近几个月的使用经验，讨论了组织为什么总在解决信息效率问题，OpenClaw 相比普通聊天式 AI 的关键差异，以及要让 AI Agent 真正干活，需要提前准备哪些流程、数据和表达习惯。</span></p><p></p><p><strong><span>视频版</span></strong></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12rMQ6yETu/?vd_source=62671c3ecde3999e54a50ff3cf4ca6a3" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12rMQ6yETu/?vd_source=62671c3ecde3999e54a50ff3cf4ca6a3"><strong><span>《引入 AI 员工的代价是什么？》</span></strong></a></p><p><span>&nbsp;</span></p><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a> ｜OpenClaw 真能进入实际工作吗？</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="37">00:37</a> ｜组织的大部分问题，本质上都在解决信息效率</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="270">04:30</a> ｜微信为什么不适合办公？</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="497">08:17</a> ｜OpenClaw 为什么像一套 AI 基础设施？</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="635">10:35</a> ｜接入 IM，是它与普通 AI 客户端的重要差异</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="826">13:46</a> ｜安装只是第一步：真正痛苦的是调试和磨合</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="922">15:22</a> ｜Memory 和 Skill 为什么让 OpenClaw 有持续演化的可能？</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1170">19:30</a> ｜巨头接入、开源协作与早期安全风险</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1371">22:51</a> ｜把 AI Agent 接进业务之前，需要做什么准备？</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1533">25:33</a> ｜高频使用 AI，也是在训练自己的需求表达能力</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1781">29:41</a> ｜没有结构化数据，OpenClaw 只是另一个聊天机器人</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1944">32:24</a> ｜真实落地前先泼冷水：它还不能替代员工</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2127">35:27</a> ｜从资料搜集到选题策划：AI 如何辅助内容生产</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2426">40:26</a> ｜先让它认识公司，再把它定位成“幕僚长”</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2498">41:38</a> ｜助理型工作：日报、日程和数据监控</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2649">44:09</a> ｜咨询型与战略型工作，应该给 AI 多大权重？</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2787">46:27</a> ｜从公司走向个人：投资报告与内容收藏</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2890">48:10</a> ｜数据安全怎么处理：原生 OpenClaw 与飞书 Aily 分开使用</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3019">50:19</a> ｜成熟度、可靠性和 Token 成本</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3238">53:58</a> ｜Claude、Gemini、GPT、Kimi：模型偏好来自可靠性</span></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3357">55:57</a> ｜“蒸馏前同事”和“蒸馏自己”，只是玩梗吗？</span></p><p><span>&nbsp;</span></p><p><strong><span>延伸</span></strong></p><p><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><a href="https://openclaw.ai/" data-url="https://openclaw.ai"><span>OpenClaw 官方网站</span></a></p><p><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jEAaz3E6K/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jEAaz3E6K/"><span>《一个视频搞懂 OpenClaw！》｜林亦 LYi</span></a><br><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iVoVBgERD/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iVoVBgERD/"><span>《对罗福莉的 3.5 小时访谈：AI 范式已然巨变》｜张小珺商业访谈录</span></a><br><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1G3FNznEiS/" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1G3FNznEiS/"><span>《手把手彻底学会 Agent Skills！》｜秋芝 2046</span></a><br><a href="https://uxchi.notion.site/Product-Thinking-51a621a94e844f95957385ef3b57c234" data-url="https://uxchi.notion.site/Product-Thinking-51a621a94e844f95957385ef3b57c234"><span>《Notion-产品沉思录》</span></a><br></p><p><span>&nbsp;</span></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a7057d01b5e24969ce8289dhttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a7057d01b5e24969ce8289dMon, 03 Aug 2026 09:13:38 GMT1:01:32<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong></p><p><span>不知道大家有没有过这样的经历：原本只想在网上解释一句，最后却越说越乱；线下相处平和的人，一到评论区就充满攻击性；明明看到了更多不同观点，我们却没有变得更开放，反而更确信对方不可理喻。</span></p><p><span>这一期，我们从克里斯·贝尔的《打破社交媒体棱镜》出发，讨论社交媒体如何放大身份、地位与群体认同，为什么“打破信息茧房”有时反而会让人更加极端，以及少数高频发言者如何制造“全社会都在对立”的错觉。</span></p><p><span>话题也从美国政治实验回到我们的日常：青少年社交媒体禁令是否有效？把所有负面信息挡在孩子之外，究竟是保护还是另一种剥夺？游戏、短视频和社交平台真的是洪水猛兽吗？面对一个越来越暴烈的网络环境，普通人还能做什么？</span></p><p><strong><span>视频版</span></strong></p><h1><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ADNc6dEoP/?vd_source=62671c3ecde3999e54a50ff3cf4ca6a3" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ADNc6dEoP/?vd_source=62671c3ecde3999e54a50ff3cf4ca6a3"><span>[视频播客] 为什么人一上网就不能好好说话？</span></a></h1><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a>从特斯拉转向灯到 Pura 配色：为什么网上总在吵架</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="283">04:43</a>社交媒体不是镜子，而是一面“棱镜”</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="716">11:56</a>“打破信息茧房”，为什么可能让人更极端</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1227">20:27</a>网络喷子到底在追求什么</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1938">32:18</a>极端者占领广场，温和者退出讨论</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2382">39:42</a>禁止青少年使用社交媒体，能解决问题吗</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2561">42:41</a>保护还是过度保护：不能把所有“不适”都删除</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2880">48:00</a>从“网瘾治疗”到反网游家长：另一个极端</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2955">49:15</a>游戏不是洪水猛兽，它也可能成为入口</span></h1><h1><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3209">53:29</a>面对极化的互联网，我们还能做什么</span></h1><p><strong><span>延伸</span></strong></p><ul><li><p><span>《打破社交媒体棱镜》，克里斯·贝尔（Chris Bail）</span></p></li><li><p><span>《焦虑的一代》，乔纳森·海特（Jonathan Haidt）</span></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAAvH2L2Gvk3uHKxGNNQL1w9PUZRzueV3uaid__urjFsDdsT_3rXXt1yV86DLVKnSjO?from_tab_name=main&amp;modal_id=7647065070215695654" data-url="https://www.douyin.com/user/MS4wLjABAAAAvH2L2Gvk3uHKxGNNQL1w9PUZRzueV3uaid__urjFsDdsT_3rXXt1yV86DLVKnSjO?from_tab_name=main&amp;modal_id=7647065070215695654"><span>蜉蝣天地——向量模型工程师：AI 的隐藏瓶颈与新时代的信息迷宫》</span></a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/64e34c70e490c5dee50f183b" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/64e34c70e490c5dee50f183b"><span>《跳进兔子洞——Bonus｜「打倒网络游戏」为什么变成了他们的唯一出路？》</span></a></p></li><li><p><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/698d4f2666e2c3037721b330" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/698d4f2666e2c3037721b330"><span>《国家应该立法禁止青少年使用社交媒体吗？》</span></a></p></li></ul><p></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a5235394adef2b365625697https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a5235394adef2b365625697Sun, 12 Jul 2026 03:14:42 GMT1:04:14<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong><br><span>欢迎收听我们在 Apple Park 现场为大家带来的特别播客节目, 本期内容围绕苹果在 WWDC 26 后的创新现状、AI 发展策略、产品设计风格以及未来发展方向展开讨论</span></p><p><strong><span>嘉宾</span></strong></p><p><span>林亦LYi 大宽大宽 虽然但是张黑黑</span></p><p><strong><span>内容概述（AI生成）</span></strong></p><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fh6qHr320jTF2VQUm2O5vgHFJauA.png" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"><p></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a2a42f3dbccffcfa9c73187https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6a2a42f3dbccffcfa9c73187Thu, 11 Jun 2026 05:14:01 GMT0:57:09<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong></p><span></span><p><span>这是一期 Nothing Headphone（a） 和 Nothing Phone（4a）系列上海发布会之后的简单聊天，当天 Nothing 的手机&amp;穿戴产品负责人 Shawn 在结束发布会演讲之后跟我们在酒店聊了一个小时，我们想知道从一个产品负责人的角度他理解的 Nothing 的过去 现在和未来。</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>嘉宾</span></strong></p><span></span><p><span>Shawn —— Nothing Mobile &amp; Wearble 负责人</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a> 开场与嘉宾介绍</span></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>主持人两颗皮蛋介绍本期嘉宾 Shawn 及其背景</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Shawn 分享个人从业经历：从三星到一加，再到联合创立 Nothing</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Nothing 创立初衷：寻找科技迭代与人性化体验的最佳平衡点</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="390">06:30</a> 品牌哲学与伦敦总部</span></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>Nothing 的品牌底色：来自英国的消费电子初创品牌，为全球年轻人与创作者服务</span></li><span> </span><li><span>伦敦总部的战略意义：平衡中美资源，获取欧洲设计创新能力</span></li><span> </span><li><span>多地区协作模式：伦敦（设计决策）、深圳（工程落地）、印度及欧美（用户洞察）</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="945">15:45</a> 设计理念：透明、秩序与科技温度</span></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>与 Teenage Engineering（TE）的深度合作渊源</span></li><span> </span><li><span>透明设计的本源思考：让用户"看见"科技本质</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Glyph（象形文字）界面的设计哲学：从象形文字汲取灵感，平衡秩序美学与 Technical Warmth（科技温度）</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Phone (4a) Pro 的设计演进：金属一体化机身与可靠性优先的考量</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1700">28:20</a> 用户洞察与产品迭代</span></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>动态用户观：用户本身随时代变迁，产品需预留进化空间</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Essential Key 的位置调整：从 Phone (3a) 右侧移至 Phone (4a) 左侧，基于真实使用数据优化</span></li><span> </span><li><span>典型用户画像：心态年轻的创作者（如 YouTube 初代网红 Casey Neistat）与 Carl Pei 本人</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2330">38:50</a> AI 战略与 Essential 生态</span></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>面向未来的设备定义：近未来（AI + 传统产品）与远未来（AI Native）的双轨探索</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Essential Space 的软硬件一体化逻辑：Essential Key 与 AI 上下文的深度绑定</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Essential Apps 与 Playground：无代码（vibe coding）创建个性化小组件，打破传统 App 孤岛</span></li><span> </span><li><span>与 Google Gemini 和 OpenAI GPT 的分工策略</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2950">49:10</a> 组织能力与创业反思</span></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>Nothing 的核心竞争力：全球资源有效利用 × 新技术驱动的组织新形态</span></li><span> </span><li><span>从字节等大厂到初创的转型挑战：在"无人区"持续学习调整</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Carl Pei 个人 IP 化的团队价值</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3330">55:30</a> 入华展望与终极产品想象</span></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>中国市场现状：时机尚未成熟，需先建立足够的产品差异化</span></li><span> </span><li><span>终极产品构想：脑机接口（半开玩笑半认真）—— 在保留实体存在的前提下最大化五感利用</span></li><span> </span><li><span>新品预告：最早今年、最迟明年将有全新形态产品发布</span></li><span></span></ul>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69d472d9b977fb2c4743e441https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69d472d9b977fb2c4743e441Tue, 07 Apr 2026 10:00:00 GMT0:59:56<h1><span>概述：</span></h1><span></span><p><span>本期节目我们邀请到了小米影像运营部的刘小川和韩冲，一起聊了聊小米影像的品牌构建：从 12S Ultra 开始的战略转型，再到同徕卡合作，共同塑造的小米影像文化，最后到如今各种影像大赛以及围绕创作者的支持。这两位负责影像文化的伙伴，也分享了他们在影像文化体系中的亲身经历与思考。这不仅是一次关于“手机影像”的行业对话，更是一场关于“摄影文化如何在商业品牌中生长”的深度探讨。从战地记者到影像运营，从摄影爱好者到品牌操盘手，他们用真实的故事和作品，诠释了什么是“关注人的影像”。</span></p><span></span><h1><span>嘉宾：</span></h1><span></span><p><span>刘小川——小米影像运营部</span></p><span></span><p><span>韩冲——小米影像运营部</span></p><span></span><p><span>韩冲（上）和刘小川（下）近期拍的照片</span></p><span></span><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FnTVqO4CCGYhw4vEr7Kbs69l-0ub.jpeg" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></figure><span></span><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/lhKwKGaX3RdLVE5xuUiGrCSJtXdc.jpeg" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></figure><span></span><h1><span>时间轴：</span></h1><span></span><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a> 开场与影像文化底层逻辑</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><strong><span>刘小川</span></strong><span>阐述人文影像的长期主义：文化构建需3-5年地基，非短期行为可达成</span></li><span> </span><li><strong><span>韩冲</span></strong><span>分享摄影入门路径：从光圈快门基础知识到徕卡品牌情结的建立</span></li><span> </span><li><span>核心观点传递：让大众觉得"这张照片我也能拍"，而非追求极端场景的视觉冲击</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="70">01:10</a> 清河摄影部与职业转型</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>嘉宾自我介绍：</span><strong><span>刘小川</span></strong><span>（小米影像运营，22年12S Ultra前火线入职）、</span><strong><span>韩冲</span></strong><span>（14年战地记者转型，曾驻中东与欧洲）</span></li><span> </span><li><span>清河摄影部命名渊源：受前同事"酒仙桥摄影部"启发，结合清河地理位置的个人播客项目</span></li><span> </span><li><span>岗位定位：圈层营销负责人，需兼具影像行业背景与互联网运营经验，关键能力是"攒局"</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="756">12:36</a> 从零构建移动影像文化</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>面试核心问题：国内手机厂商谁有真正的影像文化？结论是当时没有，多数品牌仅将圈层作为营销手段而非核心用户群</span></li><span> </span><li><span>小米影像战略：产品发布后确立人文纪实方向，面临"最抽象且最难"的文化赛道挑战</span></li><span> </span><li><span>团队搭建：从0到1摸索，行业内无先例参考，独立设立影像运营部门而非挂靠公关体系</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1066">17:46</a> 小米徕卡影像大赛运营哲学</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>大赛作为核心抓手：串联产品发布、圈层维护与全年营销活动，赛期从4个月扩展至年度制（7月至11月收稿）</span></li><span> </span><li><span>2026年全球化升级：MWC 期间宣布升级为全球赛，从"中国影像词典"词条逻辑转向更具通用性的赛道设计（面孔、夜景、街头摄影、文化脉络、情感连接）</span></li><span> </span><li><span>评审标准：情感与故事优先于技术指标，接受画质瑕疵，拒绝仅追求视觉冲击力的大片</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2129">35:29</a> 获奖作品与情感价值</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>2023年单图金奖《漂浮的床垫》：证明普通人观察日常生活的价值，无需极端技巧或器材</span></li><span> </span><li><span>2025年组图获奖作品《不再悬浮于空中楼阁》：西北农村纪实，摄影师谦豆通过影像与故乡重新建立连接</span></li><span> </span><li><span>未获奖作品的价值：父女通过继承手机拍摄习惯达成和解，影像作为情绪出口而非竞技工具</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3310">55:10</a> 全球化与未来探索</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>全球赛挑战：寻找跨文化共识，避免地缘政治敏感题材，强调影像无需翻译的通用性</span></li><span> </span><li><span>"寻找好朋友"创作者支持计划：独立于大赛的资助项目，聚焦需要被关注的人群、文化现象与社会生活议题</span></li><span> </span><li><span>技术边界：当前仅接受静态照片，未来可能纳入LivePhoto（动态照片）赛道，但评价标准仍在讨论</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="5173">01:26:13</a> 样片拍摄与影像平权</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>样片哲学：反对过度置景、超广角视觉冲击与无人机视角，强调平视角度与生活真实感</span></li><span> </span><li><span>移动影像语言：手机可捕捉更私密、不经意的瞬间，被摄者入侵感低，适合情感连接类题材</span></li><span> </span><li><span>历史节点：徕卡百年前将摄影小型化实现专业领域平权，手机影像正在实现更大范围的创作平权</span></li><span> </span><li><span>零号（上）与初号（下）25 年拍摄的满意照片</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fpv3DQuRbMYQZOIZSLgULaw1oJFf.jpg" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></figure><span></span><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FgSvaayK3U9WrJVONMKYNeQR4iKe.png" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></figure><span></span><p><strong><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="6185">01:43:05</a> 结语</span></strong></p><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>小米影像文化长期主义：即使无徕卡合作，基于品牌底层人文基因仍会走同一条路</span></li><span> </span><li><span>征稿邀请：欢迎全球用户投稿分享日常观察，无需极致器材或远方场景</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h1><span>提到的内容或事件：</span></h1><span></span><p><span>播客：</span></p><span></span><p><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/65d37c2f38b975347636eb43" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/65d37c2f38b975347636eb43"><span>清河摄影部</span></a></p><span></span><p><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69647072e235ea65bc61e7c5" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69647072e235ea65bc61e7c5"><span>2025首届中文摄影播客节</span></a><span>——</span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6106db87d8dd6e8d8f872427" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/podcast/6106db87d8dd6e8d8f872427"><span>接触印相 Contact Sheets</span></a></p><span></span><p><span>影像作品：</span><a href="https://www.mi.com/visual/award/winWorks" data-url="https://www.mi.com/visual/award/winWorks"><span>《漂浮的床垫》</span></a><span>——2023单幅作品金奖</span></p><span></span><p><img src="https://bts-image.xyzcdn.net/aHR0cHM6Ly9vaWlvaWlpby5mZWlzaHUuY24vc3BhY2UvYXBpL2JveC9zdHJlYW0vZG93bmxvYWQvYXN5bmNjb2RlLz9jb2RlPVl6azBPREk1TnpWaU16VmtNakEzTXpVellqVm1ZMlE1TXpsaU1XRmtaRGRmYWpGcmVuTnJNWGt6ZURkRU5rcEthMjFVVlVneVIzRmFUM1JyY1dKdVQxTmZWRzlyWlc0NlQwSXpaMkpOZVU5YWIyMVJXbkY0YjJaVFRHTlFTekpvYmtWaVh6RTNOelExT1RFeE1qZzZNVGMzTkRVNU5EY3lPRjlXTkE=" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></p><span></span><p><a href="https://www.mi.com/visual/award/winWorks" data-url="https://www.mi.com/visual/award/winWorks"><span>《不再悬浮于空中楼阁》</span></a><span>——2025组图故事优秀奖</span></p><span></span><p><img src="https://bts-image.xyzcdn.net/aHR0cHM6Ly9vaWlvaWlpby5mZWlzaHUuY24vc3BhY2UvYXBpL2JveC9zdHJlYW0vZG93bmxvYWQvYXN5bmNjb2RlLz9jb2RlPU56RXdOVE01TjJZd04yUmhNams1WmpjMVpqWTRaRFk1WWpaa05HRmxaVEZmV1cxbGMxUmpiRmxQV0U4elduWjVVMHQwVWxOTVVYQk5WbmcwWnpSNE1HaGZWRzlyWlc0NlFXNUtNV0p3UzNOamIxQjRjM2Q0YlVWWGJXTTVRbGMyYm14bVh6RTNOelExT1RFeE1qZzZNVGMzTkRVNU5EY3lPRjlXTkE=" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"><img src="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/space/api/box/stream/download/asynccode/?code=MzY1YWRlMzdiZTY4NTI5NDNkMGYwM2Q2YzIyNjZjZWZfNjN6QTVIQVV4cFVyUU9uMEdWNE1XWlRIUFFlUkRIbUVfVG9rZW46T3NUcWJjRmMzb1BQdUh4bWtBaWNpdk91bk1iXzE3NzQ1OTExMjg6MTc3NDU5NDcyOF9WNA" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></p><span></span><p><img src="https://bts-image.xyzcdn.net/aHR0cHM6Ly9vaWlvaWlpby5mZWlzaHUuY24vc3BhY2UvYXBpL2JveC9zdHJlYW0vZG93bmxvYWQvYXN5bmNjb2RlLz9jb2RlPU5UZGtOakV5TkRFMU5qUm1NekptWXpOa1pXUmxNMk0yT0RkalpHSmxNbVJmU204eVlVMDNaVmQxYlZFd01GQkNTek4zUzAxalQwVk5jVVkzZVROVVp6UmZWRzlyWlc0NlIyVm5aV0pOWm5KRWJ6SnVUR0Y0UVZKS1ptTkdRMnd6Ymtoa1h6RTNOelExT1RFeE1qZzZNVGMzTkRVNU5EY3lPRjlXTkE=" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"><img src="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/space/api/box/stream/download/asynccode/?code=ZTZlMDBkNjA1YjQ5NmZkY2Q1ZTM2YzRiNmQxMGZlNTVfQmtlRk56NXdKUUFOeWxGQVVZWnZaYzB4eEtYTHhZNkZfVG9rZW46V0p4emJqdFJZb2ZhUUF4Z1d6RWMzRXJWbmhjXzE3NzQ1OTExMjg6MTc3NDU5NDcyOF9WNA" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></p><span></span><p><a href="https://www.mi.com/visual/award/winWorks" data-url="https://www.mi.com/visual/award/winWorks"><span>《这里音乐不息》</span></a><span>——2024组图故事金奖</span></p><span></span><p><img src="https://bts-image.xyzcdn.net/aHR0cHM6Ly9vaWlvaWlpby5mZWlzaHUuY24vc3BhY2UvYXBpL2JveC9zdHJlYW0vZG93bmxvYWQvYXN5bmNjb2RlLz9jb2RlPU1qWTRObU5pTldWallUTTRaR05sTjJJd01UUXdOamMyTjJSbE1qVXdNMlpmVkdSUE1GTmlVMVJaUlZaeVZIbE9VbEJCWjNaUVducEZPV0pEWTNaYU5VbGZWRzlyWlc0NlZUbHFTbUphUVVGbmIwbEdWVzk0WjNsWVRtTldjV0ZSYm5KbVh6RTNOelExT1RFeE1qZzZNVGMzTkRVNU5EY3lPRjlXTkE=" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"><img src="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/space/api/box/stream/download/asynccode/?code=OWI3MDk4MDNhODBmOWRlNTQ1MjBkYzExMTY5NWQ2OGJfVjVGZnhtMVRqWVpQMWxCQUtyd0pmT1IwWHlCbHZ1MG1fVG9rZW46UnRROWJLeWZYb0hzelJ4aDNXQ2NHakppbnpRXzE3NzQ1OTExMjg6MTc3NDU5NDcyOF9WNA" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></p><span></span><p><img src="https://bts-image.xyzcdn.net/aHR0cHM6Ly9vaWlvaWlpby5mZWlzaHUuY24vc3BhY2UvYXBpL2JveC9zdHJlYW0vZG93bmxvYWQvYXN5bmNjb2RlLz9jb2RlPU5qYzJaVGxqTXprNVltVTBNRGMxWVRRd09XVXlNMkV6WmpZNU5UZGhNR0ZmY0RabFNEQjBjMll5ZVZweGVFWkZTMFZZY2xSME1UVjZNVFF5WkRCek1VTmZWRzlyWlc0NlRXRlBUbUpGWkc1emIzQTFZamQ0UmxkaloyTXlVM2N3YmtWa1h6RTNOelExT1RFeE1qZzZNVGMzTkRVNU5EY3lPRjlXTkE=" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"><img src="https://oiioiiio.feishu.cn/space/api/box/stream/download/asynccode/?code=OTE2MGM3NDI5YTI2NmRjZGY5Y2I5MDU2ZmZlZGZlY2NfcmJHaTduSFhyUmZSbEFJQ0VOb3hJYmZ4U2JReDdja3dfVG9rZW46UE8wM2J1Q3N2bzlrR2V4eVZLVGNwVjMxbnJmXzE3NzQ1OTExMjg6MTc3NDU5NDcyOF9WNA" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></p><span></span><p><a href="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/ydMuzndWkRy9g0pTOlDqLg" data-url="https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/ydMuzndWkRy9g0pTOlDqLg"><span>《父亲拍过的照片，是寄往人间的明信片》</span></a></p><span></span><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/Fr92TJO03xSrSK5qn1xnuYF7Qdum.jpeg" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></figure><span></span><figure><img src="https://image.xyzcdn.net/FsEcDO2nlDPLclpJiHk-VlpLnI-T.jpeg" referrerpolicy="no-referrer"></figure><span></span><h1><span>BGM：</span></h1><span></span><p><span>Funky night</span></p><span></span><p><span>BossaNova Journey</span></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69c61f447b0a0bfd33507b1chttps://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69c61f447b0a0bfd33507b1cFri, 27 Mar 2026 10:30:00 GMT1:43:55<p><span>概述：</span></p><span></span><p><span>本期节目邀请到了在头部手机厂商从事GTM（Go-to-Market）工作的Kevin，为大家揭开这个“冰山之下”岗位的神秘面纱。这期内容不仅详细解读了GTM经理的工作职责、能力要求和职业发展路径，还结合小米17、华为Mate 80等具体产品案例，闲谈了手机行业的产品操盘逻辑。此外，Kevin 还分享了东南亚市场的独特洞察，包括各国消费者差异、营销策略以及当前内存涨价对整个行业的冲击。</span></p><span></span><p><span>嘉宾：</span></p><span></span><p><span>Kevin——职业GTM</span></p><span></span><p><span>时间轴：</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="22">00:22</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>开场介绍：嘉宾Kevin来自头部手机厂商，负责GTM工作</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="70">01:10</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>GTM岗位扫盲：什么是GTM？不同公司对它的理解有多大差异？</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="302">05:02</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>GTM怎么干活？从立项到退市的24个月，这岗位为什么难培养</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1201">20:01</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>案例复盘：小米17系列的操盘得失，华为Mate 80的策略观察</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1790">29:50</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>手机行业的利润真相：高端机真的赚钱吗？规模效应才是关键</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1995">33:15</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>出海第一站：东南亚市场的复杂性</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2406">40:06</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>海外消费者的产品偏好：不同市场的差异</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2730">45:30</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>行业地震：内存涨价成本飙升，苹果为什么“赢麻了”？</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3081">51:21</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>职业感悟：GTM的心态变化</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3410">56:50</a></span></p><span></span><p><span>给新人GTM的建议 ，购机提醒</span></p><span></span><p><span>提到的内容或事件：</span></p><span></span><p><span>知识概念：GTM IBM SKU IPD IPMS</span></p><span></span><p><span>事件：小米17的发布 华为Mate80的发布 内存涨价</span></p><span></span><p><span>书籍：《思考，快与慢》</span></p><span></span><p><span>BGM：</span></p><span></span><p><span>Steven Gutheinz - Moorpark</span></p><span></span><p><span>Chilling -Kata</span></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69bd2bc52d318777c9e6fd76https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69bd2bc52d318777c9e6fd76Fri, 20 Mar 2026 11:30:16 GMT1:00:44<h1><span>概述：</span></h1><span></span><p><span>本期节目与嘉宾RAY围绕影像技术的发展、电影创作的演变、胶片与数字的交替，以及AI对影视行业的影响展开了深入讨论。从《F1》《罪人》等典型项目出发，探讨了“在场”经验对创作的重要性，揭示了色彩科学、数字中间片、Log 曲线等技术背后的历史脉络与认知误区。节目还涉及手机厂商在影像领域的“缺位”问题，强调了对基本问题的认知与工具底层逻辑的重要性。</span></p><span></span><h1><span>嘉宾</span></h1><span></span><p><a href="https://weibo.com/raytao0423" data-url="https://weibo.com/raytao0423"><span>Ray —— 职业调色师</span></a></p><span></span><h1><span>时间轴</span></h1><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="16">00:16</a> ｜《罪人》为何能拿奥斯卡？</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>讨论2025年电影《罪人》如何通过吸血鬼题材、IMAX胶片拍摄、种族议题等元素实现创新。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>导演的个人经历与影像表达的深度结合。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="234">03:54</a>｜F1的“old school”爽片美学</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>从《F1》看老派动作片的拍摄逻辑。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>技术创新：如将 iPhone 改装为赛车机位、DJI 如影4D 的使用。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="461">07:41</a>｜iPhone如何从电影项目中“偷师”</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>《惊变28年》用 iPhone15 Pro 拍摄，催生“Genlock”需求。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Genlock 同步技术在电影拍摄中的重要性。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="611">10:11</a> ｜现代数字摄影的挑战与调色哲学</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>F1 拍摄中光线变化带来的挑战。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>HDR 与 SDR 版本的风格差异与行业探索。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1113">18:33</a> ｜从胶片到数字：技术演变的“在场感”</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>数字中间片、Log 曲线的起源：柯达 Cinetone。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>Glenn Kennel 从柯达到阿莱的技术传承。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1818">30:18</a> ｜AI工具如何重塑创作流程？</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>Sora、Runway 等工具对分镜、特效、预演的冲击。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>特效沟通成本与“预演”技术的演变。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2652">44:12</a> ｜回潮与演变：胶片如何“复活”</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>诺兰、柯达推动胶片复兴。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>绘画与摄影的历史类比：AI是否会“解放”创作？</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3023">50:23</a> ｜统计学 vs. 经验：谁在定义“用户需求”？</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>NPS的局限：用户无法表达真实需求。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>信息差与咨询公司存在的意义。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3349">55:49</a> ｜手机厂商的“缺位”问题</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>尼康在视频领域的落后，源于“未在场”。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>胶片时代的色彩问题在现代相机中重现。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3581">59:41</a> ｜调色工具的进化与“电影感”</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>Baselight 的“青橙滑块”如何实现“怎么调都好看”。</span></li><span> </span><li><span>DaVinci 中的 “PIVOT” 与胶片中灰的关系。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3841">01:04:01</a> ｜人的价值 vs. 算法</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>为什么电影没有陷入“计算摄影”的混乱？</span></li><span> </span><li><span>审美优先：人的判断仍是关键。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h3><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4244">01:10:44</a> ｜相册：被忽视的“影像闭环”</span></h3><span></span><ul><span> </span><li><span>安卓厂商为何不重视相册体验？</span></li><span> </span><li><span>影像闭环的最后一环：观看与分享。</span></li><span></span></ul><span></span><h1><strong><span>提到的内容或事件</span></strong></h1><span></span><p><span>播客：</span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/67d7e1a878103db3bdef81fb" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/67d7e1a878103db3bdef81fb"><span>专访 ColorOS 陈希</span></a></p><span></span><p><span>电影：《罪人》《一个国家的诞生》《F1》 《惊变28天》《沙丘》《奥本海默》</span></p><span></span><p><span>其他节目：</span><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11x411w7Fa/?vd_source=168f3eb944cf73e7eddde7dfe0fd3651" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV11x411w7Fa/?vd_source=168f3eb944cf73e7eddde7dfe0fd3651"><span>Side By Side 2012</span></a><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1tFsPzKE4B/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&amp;vd_source=ef5c9492059e049c893c1fc9f968a0dc" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1tFsPzKE4B/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click&amp;vd_source=ef5c9492059e049c893c1fc9f968a0dc"><span>《F1：狂飙飞车》幕后制作特辑</span></a></p><span></span><p><span>知识概念：</span><a href="https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/59528766" data-url="https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/59528766"><span>同色异谱</span></a><span> 色彩空间 </span><a href="https://docs.red.com/955-0156/EPICSCARLETOperationGuide/zh-cn/Content/8_TC_Gen_Multi/Genlock.htm" data-url="https://docs.red.com/955-0156/EPICSCARLETOperationGuide/zh-cn/Content/8_TC_Gen_Multi/Genlock.htm"><span>Genlock</span></a><span> Log HDR SDR </span><a href="https://www.ibm.com/cn-zh/think/topics/net-promoter-score" data-url="https://www.ibm.com/cn-zh/think/topics/net-promoter-score"><span>NPS</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://www.filmlight.ltd.uk/products/baselight/overview_bl.php" data-url="https://www.filmlight.ltd.uk/products/baselight/overview_bl.php"><span>Baselight</span></a><span> 数字中间片</span></p><span></span><p><span>事件：seedance2.0 发布 尼康收购 RED iPhone 17 发布</span></p><span></span><h1><span>BGM</span></h1><span></span><p><span>Tony Anderson - Ariana</span></p><span></span><p><span>Yasper - Good Friends</span></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69b3f80a772ac2295b0ab813https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69b3f80a772ac2295b0ab813Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:48:45 GMT1:24:12<p><strong><span>节目概述</span></strong></p><p><span>本期播客两颗皮蛋的年终总结，你会在这期节目中听到我们关于过去一年内容和整体业务的复盘，也能听到过去一年深刻影响我们的节目和文艺作品，还有我们个人创业五年来的心态变化以及一些新计划。</span></p><p><span>祝大家 2026 春节愉快，阖家欢乐🎉</span></p><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a> 频道状态与团队扩张</span></p><ul><li><p><span>2025 年视频产量提升约 1/3，团队稳定在 5 人规模</span></p></li><li><p><span>与</span><a href="https://space.bilibili.com/3546718146661176" data-url="https://space.bilibili.com/3546718146661176"><span>谐门东西 </span></a><a href="https://space.bilibili.com/487617047?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click" data-url="https://space.bilibili.com/487617047?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click"><span>荔枝</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://space.bilibili.com/109437432?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click" data-url="https://space.bilibili.com/109437432?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click"><span>Ray</span></a><span>等好友尝试选题合作，探索外部创作者支持模式</span></p></li><li><p><span>找到商业合作与自我表达的平衡点，通过非内容渠道（当面沟通、播客）传递尖锐观点</span></p></li></ul><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="508">00:08:28</a> 深度内容系列复盘</span></p><ul><li><p><span>满意的三期访谈：张璇（OPPO 影像）、吴仓志（小米屏幕像素排列）、陆承昊（OPPO 影像哲学）</span></p></li><li><p><span>「玄学大战」重观点而不是分优劣</span></p></li><li><p><span>「基本问题」系列尝试脱离单一产品视角，探讨技术路线与组织共识，OPPO 影像一期建立新标杆</span></p></li></ul><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2055">00:34:15</a> iPhone 观察与 AI 实践</span></p><ul><li><p><span>iPhone 16 系列是过往预期的兑现（三摄高像素、器件小型化、液态玻璃），故未做深度解析</span></p></li><li><p><span>液态玻璃（Liquid Glass）体现苹果工程能力与行业领导者特权</span></p></li><li><p><span>实践 Kimi 2.5、Plaud 等 AI 工具，认为能嵌入工作流的 AI 才是有效工具，对 AI 硬件持谨慎态度</span></p></li></ul><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3472">00:57:52</a> 商业化逻辑：ToB 与 ToC</span></p><ul><li><p><span>区分内容属性：ToB 内容（如「基本问题」）帮助品牌内部共识，ToC 内容追求普世创意奖赏</span></p></li><li><p><span>媒体应追求「穿越周期」而非「穿越平台」，不同平台情绪反馈差异不应造成心理负担</span></p></li><li><p><span>商务核心在于高频沟通与真诚待人，尊重代理角色，理解生意本质是信任交换</span></p></li></ul><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="4448">01:14:08</a> 文艺作品与公共事件参与</span></p><ul><li><p><span>初号重看《三大战役》《真探》，推荐 Up 主「普朗特」；</span></p></li><li><p><span>零号阅读刘震云《一地鸡毛》《一句顶一万句》、红楼梦，关注人类通用情绪</span></p></li><li><p><span>零号深度参与小区物业维权事件，被留置一下午后领悟线下凝聚共识的威力与公共事务的复杂性</span></p></li><li><p><span>观察自媒体乱象（钟薛高事件、拼多多娃娃菜反转），反思流量激励对信息真实性的侵蚀</span></p></li></ul><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="7127">01:58:47</a> 投资心态与宏观观察</span></p><ul><li><p><span>初号分享新能源基金定投回本、美股苹果与英伟达持仓经历，强调「不要 All in」与系统训练</span></p></li><li><p><span>零号跟随孟岩「有知有行」策略，配置 A 股、美股、债券与黄金底仓，接受「无人知晓」的不确定性</span></p></li><li><p><span>讨论中美产业趋势，认为中国全产业链制造优势显著，深圳需正视与杭州在 AI、机器人领域的表现差异</span></p></li></ul><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="9033">02:30:33</a> 2026 年展望</span></p><ul><li><p><span>团队扩张至 10 人以内，更换办公场地，建立固定会议机制提升信息同步</span></p></li><li><p><span>零号计划多做播客，邀请媒体同行分享不同规模的自媒体运营样本</span></p></li><li><p><span>两人共同目标是「消燥」——降低噪音干扰，裁剪需求，在内容中重新找回个人表达</span></p></li></ul><p><strong><span>提到的内容或事件</span></strong></p><p><span>播客：</span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69685b3def1cf272a7737d5d" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69685b3def1cf272a7737d5d"><span>罗永浩对谈刘震云</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/694424e5038062bdbcaabd96" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/694424e5038062bdbcaabd96"><span>成为好心态的总设计师</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6983a489c78b823892b31407" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/6983a489c78b823892b31407"><span>独树不成林</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/673b087b43dc3a43878d38c0" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/673b087b43dc3a43878d38c0"><span>原型</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69806618073030367acec13b" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/69806618073030367acec13b"><span>高能量</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/682ecd8b457b22ce0df770c2" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/682ecd8b457b22ce0df770c2"><span>无人知晓</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/694b6d810b60b7bf752ac681" data-url="https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/694b6d810b60b7bf752ac681"><span>Imersive101&nbsp;</span></a></p><p><span>书：《卡拉马佐夫兄弟》《红楼梦》《咸的玩笑》《思考：快与慢》</span></p><p><span>电影/剧：《同乐者》《爱尔兰人》《教父》《华尔街之狼》《疯狂动物城》《哪吒》《纸牌屋》《火线》</span></p><p><span>B 站博主：</span><a href="https://b23.tv/FE1ixCC" data-url="https://b23.tv/FE1ixCC"><span>吸奇侠</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://b23.tv/GXiNzJY" data-url="https://b23.tv/GXiNzJY"><span>普朗特-PRUMT</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://b23.tv/rgC44yT" data-url="https://b23.tv/rgC44yT"><span>马督工（睡前消息）</span></a></p><p><span>其他节目：</span><a href="https://b23.tv/KV4LosO" data-url="https://b23.tv/KV4LosO"><span>唐湘龙：不要忘了我们是谁</span></a><span> </span><a href="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MDFdzdER3/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click" data-url="https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1MDFdzdER3/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click"><span>技能五子棋&nbsp;</span></a></p><p><span>事件：钟薛高胜诉 娃娃菜中毒三次反转</span></p><p><strong><span>BGM</span></strong></p><p><a href="https://music.163.com/song?id=2733516598&amp;uct2=U2FsdGVkX18Xui2wehFTkdZ7XfE6BoBGqxDDYPTKdDM=" data-url="https://music.163.com/song?id=2733516598&amp;uct2=U2FsdGVkX18Xui2wehFTkdZ7XfE6BoBGqxDDYPTKdDM="><span>BlueBird —— 落日飞车</span></a></p><p><a href="https://music.163.com/song?id=1364400160&amp;uct2=U2FsdGVkX199xszl7vshOoT4nGkle13xvG007qCC1S0=" data-url="https://music.163.com/song?id=1364400160&amp;uct2=U2FsdGVkX199xszl7vshOoT4nGkle13xvG007qCC1S0="><span>祝您 2026 新年快乐——左小祖咒/曾轶可</span></a></p>https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/698d8173a22480add6daf637https://www.xiaoyuzhoufm.com/episode/698d8173a22480add6daf637Thu, 12 Feb 2026 08:06:33 GMT2:53:04<p><strong><span>概述</span></strong></p><span></span><p><span>本期节目深入对话OPPO影像产品经理陆承昊，揭秘OPPO影像战略从X6到X9的演进逻辑。陆承昊首次对外系统阐释了"拍人好"这一核心心智标签的确立过程，以及背后从"堆功能"到"攻基础画质"的战略转型。节目重点探讨了Find X9系列2亿像素方案的技术取舍、大师模式的"异类"定位、用户审美从"完美美颜"到"接纳真实"的转变，以及OPPO如何通过理解学习电影工业体系来追赶iPhone视频能力。最终呈现出一个影像团队从迷茫到笃定，从表层创新到深度钻研基础问题的完整心路历程，并坦然指出"帮助用户按下快门时机判断"仍是未解难题。</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>嘉宾</span></strong></p><span></span><p><span>陆承昊—— OPPO 影像产品经理</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>视频内容</span></strong></p><span></span><p><a href="https://b23.tv/anD6n6T" data-url="https://b23.tv/anD6n6T"><span>《基本问题 001：从垫底到翻盘，OPPO影像做对了什么？》</span></a></p><span></span><p><strong><span>时间轴</span></strong></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="0">00:00</a> 开场与嘉宾介绍</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="180">03:00</a> 影像产品经理的四代演进史</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="420">07:00</a> Find X9 的影像目标</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="600">10:00</a> 为什么选择"拍人好"赛道</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="810">13:30</a> 为什么 X6 之前做不好</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1050">17:30</a> 如何形成组织共识</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1290">21:30</a> Find X9 拆解"拍人好"：榨干镜头潜力</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1680">28:00</a> 用户审美变迁：从完美到真实</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="1980">33:00</a> 大师模式：手机里的"异类"</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2340">39:00</a> 认知组与电影工业体系</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2640">44:00</a> 与 iPhone 的差距与敬</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="2880">48:00</a> 未解的基本问题：快门时机判断</span></p><span></span><p><span><a class="timestamp" data-timestamp="3090">51:30</a> 结尾：回归按下快门的瞬间</span></p><span></span><p><strong><span>BGM</span></strong></p><span></span><p><a href="https://music.163.com/song?id=5269718&amp;uct2=U2FsdGVkX1+jpe1EBo4yERTfk7S+qaottBFAFyKF/z0=" 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